Destiny - opinions

[DatGuy]

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[[SS]Shooter]

Destiny is boring playing alone, BUT it's SUPER FUN playing with friends.

My and Acid, Showstopper, Skinman have been having a good time as we all have guys of roughly the same level. I see a few other guys on as well from time to time. [BALZ]Hellboy has been playing a lot with me, as he's same level as well. We are all around level 20-22..

You can adjust most of the missions to your level, or slightly above your level, which makes it a challenge. Some can even be set way up there, to level 28, which would be impossible for our characters...

The VvV guys are on too, but they are WAY up in level, so we can't link up with them until we get up to level 25+, which will take some time.

I did like the story, and the whole thing is an interesting concept. It's similar to Borderlands, which I found fun as well. While not as fun as COD, Destiny is a similar kind of game and a chance to kill some different kinds of things.

[[SS]Shooter]

Interesting article in Forbes of all places...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthi...rtner=yahootix

Forbes allows 'Fair Use' quoting I hope...


Whac-A-Mole Syndrome: 'Destiny' Players Found A New 'Loot Cave'

You can’t keep a bad idea down: just one day after Bungie nerfed Destiny’s famous “Loot Cave,” where players could get reams of high-level items just by sitting on a rock and firing into a black hole for hours on end, one gamer appears to have already found what he’s calling “Loot Cave 2.0.” Sure enough, in the rocket yard on Earth, there’s a similar location running off the same 6-second timer as the loot cave of yore (yesterday). Check the video below for the location:

Call it “whac-a-mole syndrome.” I first encountered the concept when reading about improving airplane boarding: basically, whenever the airline smoothed the kinks out of one portion of the boarding process, another problem would just pop up somewhere else — the law of unintended consequences. So it’s not that you have a particular problem that can be solved, it’s that the system has a basic inefficiency or quirk capable of manifesting in any number of different ways. In this case, that quirk is the unflappable desire of MMO gamers to advance in the quickest way possible.

The reason the whac-a-mole syndrome applies here is that nerfing the loot cave addressed a symptom, not a problem. Player progression between levels 20-26 was boring, repetitive and often frustrating, so large numbers of players sought to circumvent Bungie’s intended pathways to find a more consistent way to level up, one that was less frustrating if equally repetitive. Bungie locked up it’s best game design at level 26, giving players further incentive to power through those other uneventful levels as quickly as possible. So there’s no real way for the developer to overcome the farming problem, except by making the actual gameplay as rewarding and consistent as the motionless grind of the loot cave. Hint: this would be a good idea.

I remember a talk from Blizzard’s Rob Pardo a couple of GDCs ago addressing ideas of grinding and game design. The most important thing, he said, was to remember that gamers are very good at breaking your game. The MMO mentality is more geared toward progression than fun, so if there’s an easy, but boring way to progress, people will do it. So you constantly need to pay attention to your game to make sure that the path of least resistance is also the most fun.

Destiny is a very young game, so it would do well to take these lessons to heart. If you need to make progression a little easier in some places to make the game more fun, you should remember the point of games in the first place.

[[SS]Chief]

I've been playing....but sadly, no one is online when I am...

[[SS]Shooter]

Chief, we've been hopping on around 6 to 8 PM Central, with guys playing until 1 to 3 AM Central.... I'll be on tonight.

And Grunt, is that your son playing? I assumed so but maybe you just don't like me anymore.

[[SS]Skinman]

I'm on practically all day long. Weekdays around 1pm EST. Weekends I don't sleep so... And there since Bungie fixed the "loot cave" the cave in the video was found about 5 mins. after they fixed the first one. They won't stop people from taking shortcuts.

[[SS]Midnight]

This game looks fun. I may get the $$$ to buy it soon.

[[SS]Shooter]

So funny and so true.

[[SS]Rator]

ok think we need a whole thread of those vids, awesome!

[[SS]Chief]

agree...that was awesome!

[[SS]Showstoper]

That was hilarious. As much as I love this game, it is very repetitive.

[[SS]Shooter]

If you like playing Destiny, DO NOT go on a raid. They are obnoxious and irritating in every way possible.

[[SS]Midnight]

I got this now. Level 1 noob incoming!!

[[SS]Midnight]

Good read/walk throug on the Vault of Glass: http://kotaku.com/the-vault-of-glass...ium=Socialflow

[DatGuy]

I wish I could try it, but there is no fucking way I am farming my way up from 20 when its all chance on whether or not you get a weapon that has light on it.