lol... dont comment on the quality of the maps 'till you see them in the guide please.

Thanks for everyones support over the years, Nyck and Rotke too, BTW, the map supporters page is not complete. There are more people who have donated, but maybe only like 10 or so. I havent updated the site because the new SS site is due out like this week or early next week hopefully.

spawn

No offense man, but your way too young to understand what tranpired. Let me break it down for you. (Rator, please correct me if I am wrong anywhere in this).

Rator worked his ass off on the TWB and the online gaming maps; Socom being one of them. He has done other great work, which you would see if you ever visited Generator Studios site. Award winning work to be exact. He has done all of this; the maps and TWB; for free. whit the exception of a small fee for the TWB, he has not profited a penny. The donations for the maps probably didn't cover the money he could have made, if he was working on a different project for all those hours.

So, his talent is noticed by a multi-million dollar copmpnay. (Not sure which approached him) They say; how would you like to be paid for this work, and get one hell of credit for your company and clan.

You cant buy the type of exposure he will get from this. This will propell his company into the mix, like nothing else could. Think about it. Just calm down and think about it.

I bought the guide as a sign of respect for what he and the Sea Snipers have done for the Socom community. Not to give money to Sony. (Who, by the way, probably aren't getting much more than Rator, for the work on the guide, since Piggyback Interactive published the guide). You want to get pissed at someone, get pissed at your self. If you, and people like you, would have donated to the maps, we may have them this time around. you want it for free, well tough shit.

Try to think about shit before you talk. As for me and my clan, We all bought one. Then we each gridded the maps out at a set measurement. So, we have the maps. And, we all are looking at the same thing. Tactics arent an issue for us.

I for one donated to the maps cause before. And I found a way to it again. It's called: Buy the Statagy Guide

Damn thanks DJ! I dont think any corrections need to be made, except that myself and Chenzo did the TWB and it is now free. It used to be $5 a year. The donations i got for the maps maybe covered 2 of the maps in terms of time and money. But youre right, if i had spent that time working on paying client stuff, i wouldve been making more.

We approached Piggyback at E3 and they called back to contract us. Sony doesnt make ANY money off the guide. Piggyback produced it and Prima published it.

Thanks again for everyones support , it is quite outstanding and humbling to see.bigclap

I'm not pissed. Not a lot atleast. Whoever makes the money (sony or otherwise) is still making the money. But hey, thats just the way the world works; capitalism. Thats why people, like raptor, make awsome shit, money. That is also why Raptor is more concerned with selling his skills to big companies, and not concerned with doing it for the community. Business is business I guess.

Well you know what else requires things, things like money? Bills, Mortgage payments, Car payments, Insurance on the car and the house, oh yeah and gas is becoming a little more expensive. hmmm what else requires things like money, oh yeah food. How do you expect to pay for those things when you have no money? WAIT! I got it, you get a job. WAIT! we have another problem, where do you find a job when your an illustrator? AH! you sell your work to other people... ya that should work.




Well besides the facts I mentioned above, you now have a job, your first one to be precise, so you can go out and buy the guide with your first pay cheque. See how our wonderful economy works, work a little buy a little, work a lot buy a lot. I figure your probably making at least minimum wage which is I think around $6.00US(sorry I live in a different country not sure about your labor laws[and yes there are more countries in the world besides the US, but that is another lesson]) so mathematically if you work only 4-5 hours you can easily buy the guide with all the applicable taxes included.

Reward those that want to contribute to society. Is this not a great way to live?

Show alittle respect. The name is RATOR. Get it right. And you know all those maps he's done before. All for the community. Every single one of the available for everyone to use just for giving him credit. And after all that you want to call him a money monger? Think before you type.

Ok. Thanks to everyone who has come to my/our defense, i wholeheartedly appreciate it. However this is becoming a bit of a relentless back and forth. Let's not encourage it. Spawn, as i said, youve made your point. You know what we've done for the community, 17 free maps in 3 years, 16 maps for $15, and a free TWB service etc. So saying "Raptor is more concerned with selling his skills to big companies, and not concerned with doing it for the community" is just plain incorrect.

sorry rator, i understand you want to calm things down, but well, i hate ignorance, so i have to reply…

@spawn
don't you understand the principle of shareware? one creates something and gives it away for free, everybody uses it and everybody is thrilled by it. rules are: you can use it for free but please give credit and you may want to donate something for the afford.

now, the creator gets the fame and some money, but usually that does not make a living. if people like you donated he may got enough to spend more time in creating more stuff and no big corporation would be necessary.

or if people like you did not donate, because they do not have money, which is ok, but you could create sth useful by yourself instead thus giving back sth. and if you cannot do the latter because you dont have the time or abilities, it's ok, but at least you could evangelize, telling people how great the work of the guy is (you are using it all the time, aren't you?) and that they should support it if they can.

see, that's the way things work. and that is not capitalism. if it were you had not seen the maps in the first place, nor the whiteboard, because you had to pay for it… not fifteen dollars, because the works worth is a lot more (and don't forget that the quality would not be that excellent, because if people just work for money they usually dont put as much heart in it…).

Alright, a cease-fire is fine with me. But, do you have an estimate as to when you'll be getting them for TWB?

No, no idea as of yet, waiting on some sales reports first. But speaking of the TWB, we are working on TWB vers.2. Should be sweet. I'll keep you all posted. (Thnx for the cease fire , lol )

Just thought you guys would want to know, there are some leaked map images on the net. I've got all the maps except for boneyard. What is this 'fort' map. I've never played that.

EDIT: Wait, thats crucible! My favorite map!

THanks yea there are some people that have scanned them in and Piggyback should be dealing with them. Thanks.

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Good job fellas and feel free to drop in with us in Central 4 [ReD] rooms anytime and were always looking for somone to scrimage as well.

Cool thanks bud.

so whaddya got lined up for S4? laffyguy

well unless someone other than Zipper makes it, i dont know. I dont think there will be an S4.

are you serious?? u dont think Zipper is gonna make another one?whatreyout

I dont think so. but i dont know for sure.

I would to thank the SeaSnipers for their hardwork on the Socom 3 Official Guide.SeaSnipers send me a friend invite on Socom 3 my name is darkelite.

Thanks

Way to go guys! once again yall have gone above and beyond.

I would think they would like to come out with maybe just an improved versionof s3 in the form of s4 if anything once they get their hands on the ps3 technology and get to work with it

Thanks again for the compliments everyone, and like i said, from what ive heard, there will not be a Socom 4, i cant confirm.

Yeah you guys did some nice work. looked great i have one myself

Thanks bud!

we have another bot problem again...

No I think he just is concerned about you.